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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 01-31-2010, 05:01 PM Thread Starter
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Question How many superworms (Boxie)

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I'm new here, I have a EBT (eastern box turtle) I've had for 16 years. I got her when I was 11. Anyway, I never really thought much about how I cared for her, until recently, I started wondering about it, so through much research I realized how BADLY I was taking care of her. I feel AWFUL!!! So I have been changing things for her, and her new enclosure will be arriving this week, as well as all my new supplies for her. I've changed her diet dramatically, and I've started feeding her Superworms, everything I read seems to point to these being a great source of protein and other nutrional needs. My question is How many worms should I feed her? Secondly, I've been feeding her with tweezers, is there a better more natural way to do this? I tried putting them in a feeding bowl, but they all wiggled right out, leaving me to chase them down in the cage to get them out, and she was scared half to death because of all the movement and comotion I was making! Lastly, I was wondering if in the event a worm does get into her cage, and burrows, and I can't find it, is this cause for concern? What should I do?

Thank you all for your help, I'm sure I will have more questions soon!

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If you change her diet too drastically and too quickly you may make her sick. Be careful of this. Watch for changes in her droppings, and the ability to pass waste, both solid and liquid. Her stomach may no longer be able to handle some foods, even if they are good for her... and you may have to work with vitamin supplements for some things.
Super worms are full of protein, and if she is not used to a protein rich diet, this could make her very sick very quick, and lead to other long term problems. Go easy on the worms... use them as only a part of her diet, along with all the other healthy food options and a few of the foods she is used to. Variety is your key to healthy. As the saying goes, too much of a good thing can be no good.

As for burrowing worms, if you don't find them they will form cocoons and hatch into moths, which will lay more eggs, etc. They can be a big nuisance and hard to get rid of if allowed to escape the enclosure. My suggestion is simply to change the bedding if that should happen, and be sure to find the worm while doing so. There is never an inappropriate time to offer fresh bedding to a turtle. A dirty turtle can cause salmonella issues... and while it tends to be more concern in aquatic species, that tends to be because water makes it easier to spread disease. All turtles carry that risk.

When it comes to feeding the worms, if she's happy with a tweezers and its low stress, keep doing what works. That is time for you to bond with her, thats always a good thing too.

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Thank you!

I have been slowly changing her from the "tortise/Turtle" diet I was buying to the worms, and fresh fruits and veggies. I mixed in a few fruits like apple and banana with her food, then the next day I would mix in the spring mix, and switch on and off. Her poo, and pee seem to be the same. I've only been giving her 3 worms every other day, is that enough? too much? I also read somewhere that the worms could potentially bite her, and harm her. Is this true? She seems to really like them, so I hope not!

Thank you again for your help, I hope to posting new pictures of her soon. I dropped my camera the other day in the snow, and it broke! So I ordered another one. Everything I've been ordering online lately seems to be on back order... go figure!

Thanks again!!!!

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Yes, there is the potential for the worms to bite. If you are tweezers feeding it shouldn't be too difficult to snap the heads off of the worms before you feed them. If she is doing well on the schedule you are currently using for food/feedings, I would not alter it at this point. I can't tell you via internet what is enough or too much. That would require physical examination and lab work for me to determine such a thing. If you are really concerned it would be a good idea to schedule a check up with a good vet.

I will keep watch for your photos.

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I think she is really liking this new diet! LOL she seems to be much for active, and a lot happier! I'm so glad I have done some more research, I just wish I would have done things sooner! But I can't dwell on the past, I'm just going to move forward from here. Thank you for all your help. I've been searching for a good herp/reptile vet in my area, but I haven't had any luck. My vet for my other pets, told me he wouldn't want to waste my money, because he really has no experience with Turtles.

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If you pm me with your general location (city) I may be able to help you find a qualified vet near you. Please don't post that info on the open forum though, for safety's sake.

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